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Firefox 3...Nearly ready?

by thebeebs 20. March 2008 23:44

I just downloaded firefox beta 4 to test and see if it passes the Acid 3 test. Sadly it no longer passes the opening up test. Could firefox be the flakiest beta browser ever? Looks like safari are going to have a few more converts this month.

"In many ways it (Firefox 3) is much more stable than anything else out there," Mozilla Corp Vice President of Engineering Mike Schroepfer. - IS THIS MORE STABLE MIKE?

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Christian Piper
Christian Piper United Kingdom
3/23/2008 8:44:43 PM #

Looks like safari are going to have a few more converts this month.

Last I checked FF 1 and 2 still worked fine Smile

I don't think moz's unit tests stretch to "insert any ff toolbar" and then click a tab while the browser is in an unstable state, i'm sure the browser without any extensions is pretty stable.

What they could have done was lock the UI but users get pissy when nothing seems to be happening, but anyway, look at the lengths they go to when it does go wrong...

1) "We're Sorry"
2) "we'll try to restore your tabs and windows when it restarts"
3) "you can send us a crash report"
4) "Email me when more information is available"

Regards,
Christian



Martin Beeby
Martin Beeby United Kingdom
3/24/2008 4:51:08 AM #

If you know somthing crashes your product, it should be removed or fixed.

I can't load it at the moment, even in safe mode. I guess i'll wait for the next update.

Currently using IE8, which seems to be working well. Although it dosen't pass Acid 3.

IE has come closest to the rendering reference. I wonder if any current browser can render Acid 3 Properly?


Christian Piper
Christian Piper United Kingdom
3/24/2008 7:47:53 PM #

But how are moz to know that the browser would be put in that state without testing every single extension available?, afaik the update system is based on version range checking.

Have you tried creating a new profile from the command line "firefox.exe -CreateProfile test"

You can always have a look at what's causing ff to crash directly using "firefox.exe -console"

IE has come closest to the rendering reference.

I'd like to see that ...

IE8 joeb454.files.wordpress.com/.../ie8-acid-test.png

WebKit joeb454.files.wordpress.com/.../ff3-acid-test.png

Gecko joeb454.files.wordpress.com/.../...a-acid-test.png

http://www.anomalousanomaly.com/2008/03/06/acid-3/

BTW the Acid 3 test was designed to break every browser currently on release, it'll be a long time before any come close to rendering it complete, my moneys on WebKit tho.

Regards,
Christian

Martin Beeby
Martin Beeby United Kingdom
3/25/2008 1:22:05 AM #

I'm not sure how the extensions are architected but why would you need to test every extension?  Surly the processes that run the extensions are managed and marshalled by the browser. If a failure happens I’d have thought that the thread could be terminated elegantly.

I wasn't suggesting that IE 8 was the best of all the browsers. Just the ones I had tried so far -  sorry I should have added that.

If I were the product development manager at Microsoft I’d be trying to get my browser to be the first Acid 3 browser, can you imagine what a coup that would be!

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